Comments up to August 2017
Will curbside pickup include recycling? If so, what will there be a charge for recycling pickup?
Curbside pickup will include recycling. Recycling pickup will likely account for about 5 -10% of the total amount residents in the service area pay. The majority of recycle pickup costs will be covered by resale of recyclables and provincial grants.
A comment rather than a question
Many residents refer to the private services that are currently available in the R.M. for curb side pick ups, as a reasonable alternative. We received such private service for over a decade. But a few years ago, switched to moving our own waste using the RM landfill sites. A small factor was the cost comparison. But the primary reason was that the private contractor was not equipped to pick up waste and recyclables separately. All waste in one bag ended up in landfill ; and defeated our commitment to the environment and responsible waste management. I know that many of my neighbours were not aware of this; and fairly assumed that private curb side was a fair solution. It is not. We had looked for a contractor who picked up waste and recyclables separately and could not find one in our area. (Hwy 202) I respectfully urge the RM should keep reinforcing the limitation of private curb side service. Convenient yes, but not environmentally friendly, at all. And furthermore, the curb side pickup fees are at least triple the annual fees, now projected, for the proposed RM delivered curb side service ($60-$100). Thank you, M.Terhoch
What will be allowed for garbage curbside pickup, as in the items that will be accepted?
Hi. We don’t know for sure at this point as we need to wait to get quotes from contractors to know the options. We don’t know if we will use an automated cart system or a manual system, which can make a difference. In a cart system, the limit is the size of the cart. In a manual system, there will be at a weight limit per bag. No hazardous waste is allowed. We will pick up typical household waste. We will not generally pick up furniture, unless we decide to do an occasional bulky item pickup. It is possible we would also pick up burnables and /or compost.
After we get the contractors’ proposals in November, Council will review the options and pick the top ones, which we will share with the public to get your input.
I have no problem taking my trash and recycling to the Dunning Rd. station. We only generate about 1 bag of trash per month; the rest is compost and recyclables along with about 1 barrel per month of burnables. Will I still be able to continue in my present fashion? It would take us 2 months to fill one of those big roadside bins with garbage.
You are a role model for waste management! If you are in the designated curbside pickup area, you have to pay the special service levy whether you choose to use the curbside service or not. The final area for pickup has not been decided yet. If enough people in certain neighbourhoods are not interested in pickup, they might not be included in the service area.
Nothing is finalized yet as we haven’t sent the tender out yet. The garbage bins are usually smaller than the recycling bins as they want to encourage recycling. Pickup might be once or week, or once every two weeks.
I’m not sure what you mean by burnables. If you mean you burn brush and clean, untreated wood that is permitted. Otherwise by-Law 5-2012, referred to as the ‘burning by-law’ clearly defines when, what and how burning or fires are permitted in the RM of St. Clements. Only clean dry wood or briquettes can be burned in outdoor fire pits or outdoor solid fuel appliances. Fires cannot be used to burn garbage, rubbish, previously painted or treated wood and any fuel which when burned, may result in the release of dense smoke, or offensive odors.
Please note that any person not following this by-law is committing an offense and can be fined $100.00 for the first offense , $200.00 for the second offense, $300.00 for the third offense and $500.00 for each subsequent offense.
Can you tell me how many homes there are in each phase and how many people from these areas completed the survey… (more)?
The RM looked into this years ago, and it never came in because it was not feasible at the time. Curbside and Drive in services are readily available in the RM by private companies that have been in business for years. Your plan states that you would have the tender out by March 2017, This still is not available? Also, I am wondering why, the waste services survey – Preliminary – shows 404 respondents, Proposed Garbage and recycling plan shows “almost 470” took the survey and your overview states “nearly 500” and this is out of how many households in the RM?
Hi. Thanks for your question. We have different numbers reported for the survey as we had taken results and written about them at different times. The total number of people who completed surveys was 476. There are about 5300 properties in the RM of St. Clements and about 10,876 people (census 2016).
For the survey, we roughly divided the RM into 4 geographic areas:
- South of Hwy 44
- Between Hwy 44 and Hwy 4
- East of Lake Winnipeg (cottage country)
- Agricultural areas
Here are the number of people from each area who responded to the survey (476 total):
- South of Hwy 44: 204 respondents (43%)
- Between Hwy 44 and Hwy 4: 123 respondents (26%)
- East of Lake Winnipeg (cottage country): 113 respondents (24%)
- Agricultural areas: 36 respondents (7%)
There have been several delays in this project so the tender that was planned to go out in March 2017 has not gone out yet. We are now hoping to have the tender sent out by November 2017. The Phase one curbside pickup is roughly planned to be south of Hwy 4 between the river and Hwy 59 and south of Hwy 44 to the East St. Paul border. The finer details have not been decided yet.
Once we have the results of the Tender we will further consult with the public before any decision is made by Council. The consultation will include emails, Facebook posts, website pages and a public hearing, which will be advertised in the local papers and on our website. Council will not make a decision until after public opinion is heard and understood.
One question: what is the cost of the bins, and is that better or more cost-effective that other pickup systems …(more)?
Great initiative. I have always been embarrassed that the recycling rate in St. Clements was so low, and this is a great step forward for us in the southern part of St. Clements. I was hoping there might be an arrangement on the recycling proceeds to offset the cost of garbage pickup, and my experience in running the Province’s recycling program in buildings for the past 22 years tells me there should be a good and affordable solution. I found that getting weight statistics was near impossible as the recycling trucks have no built-in scale system, but this does need to be measured to judge program success. Vandalism is a concern here. Thanks and I hope you can get this underway quickly and cost effectively. Gerry Shuster
Our studies and consultants strongly suggest that using bins is the most cost effective approach. There were many conversations about using a bag system or creating several depots. With that said, the tender document was being written in a manner that allows for the contractor to be creative and provide the most efficient system possible.
What percentage of property owners responded to the curb side collection survey by area? Do they know that this service is currently available through private enterprise? If this goes through can you opt out of the service?
Here is the breakdown of survey responses by area:
East of Lake Winnipeg (eg. Patricia Beach, Grand Marais, Gull Lake): 24%
Between Highway #44 and Highway #4 (eg. East Selkirk, St. Peters Road): 25%
South of Highway #44: 44%
Agricultural area: 7%
We have no way of knowing who is aware of private pickup services that are available.
If curbside pickup is implemented and you live in the service area, you will not be able to opt out of the service.
What kind of fees or additional taxes are you projecting for this time of service?
We are projecting a cost of between $60 to $100 dollars per year for curbside pickup.
Participating in the curb side garbage and recycling pickup (in the designated areas), should not be optional… (more)
If the plan requires op-in at a cost, then there will be those that continue to burn garbage and annoying neighbours with smoke and ash debris. If the garbage pickup cost is applied to ALL the residents in a designated area, the per household cost will be less and will eliminate the garbage burning pollution. Residents that are reluctant, will participate if they are paying for the service anyway.
If you live within the curbside pickup service area, you will not be able to opt out of curbside pickup service.